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Post by robertisaacs on Jun 12, 2008 7:43:30 GMT
This is an outgrowth of another thread. Several people have said that they find biomechanics to be inaccessable, or that they "don't get it". I contend that this is more because of the way it is often taught than because it is hard in itself. So. Heres the idea. A study day somewhere up and left of the M25. Small group, completely informal, practical, and NOT PRESUMING ANY PREKNOWLEDGE. I think one of the big problems with learning biomechanics is when people try to move on to the more involved bits without a firm grasp of the basics. I therefor offer... Biomechanics from scratch. To cover such fundamental concepts as Planes of movement Basic (really, really basic) functional anatomy (with memory tricks) Basic joint functions Basic "normal" ranges Overview of the "gods" of biomechanics and their models, Tissue stress theory, Rootian theory, sagital plane progression theory, axial location etc And MOST importantly ANYTHING you've always wanted to know about biomechanics but have been too embarrassed to ask. This would NOT be an advanced course. This will be a foundation course and will go at the pace of the slowest person in the room NOT the fastest. I'd do it at pretty close to cost. Certainly less than £50 depending on finding a cheap venue and how many come. If we get more than, say 5 people interested we'll decide on dates / location and do it. So, anyone interested? Regards Robert
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Post by twirly on Jun 12, 2008 8:20:56 GMT
Yes please Robert, Count me in. As were starting from the very beginning, ''It's a very good place to staaaaaaaaaaaaart,'' (A la' lady in the wimple). Any recommended reading to gear us into study mode? thanks sweety, the twirly one.
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Post by blinda on Jun 12, 2008 8:40:55 GMT
Me too, please.
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Post by lyndabarber on Jun 12, 2008 19:48:39 GMT
Consider me as an applicant for the 'slowest person in the class' position. Lynda ;D
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Post by Irene Lawrence on Jun 12, 2008 23:17:38 GMT
HI Robert, thanks for the PM about this. I would be interested in vying with Lynda (my honorary ladies maid and number one Liverpool fan!) for the position of 'slowest person in the class!
Have you any idea of dates/times?
Irene
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Post by robertisaacs on Jun 13, 2008 20:22:04 GMT
Well, 4 is enough to make it worthwhile. More would be welcome. Where d'yall live (so we can pick a venue roughly in the middle)
Regards Robert
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Post by lyndabarber on Jun 13, 2008 20:44:20 GMT
oh dear -you'll wish you never said that -I'm in Cornwall ;D Lynda
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Post by twirly on Jun 14, 2008 5:44:05 GMT
Yorkshire's lovely this time of year. You could all come & see my new garden ;D Tea on the lawn anyone? twirls
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Post by ianl on Jun 14, 2008 10:23:02 GMT
Hi I have held off from this post as I do not want to be seen to be biased and wanted to wait for the logistics issue to surface. I think Robs offer is very kind but somewhat naive in terms of: 1. Time taken out from his days and family (prep, notes, thinking time etc) 2. Financial costs - I think he is undervaluing his skills impartation efforts both on the day and in follow up 3. Level of ability to take the info away (even on practical based courses) and apply 4. The need of attendees for back up even after a course I really am not wanting to put a downer on anything but bring a touch of small (probably insignificant) experience from my own past. Certainly go for it but logistics are important and if someone is coming up from Cornwall or down from Yorkshire then why not make it something a bit more than friendship / colleague level, cost it properly (perhaps 2 days) and get the most out of it. Cheers Ian (now a very unpopular podiatrist , probably removed from twirly's christmas list )
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Post by twirly on Jun 14, 2008 11:05:58 GMT
Hi Ian, (now a very unpopular podiatrist , probably removed from twirly's christmas list ) Never! You are one of my fond things Actually I agree with all you said in your post. The reason I would like to attend a biomx course provided by Robert or indeed others from this site is due to my distrust in the bigger providers, Vasyli etc offering biomx courses with a view to flogging their product. That being said I trust Robert (nice chap, repopulating the planet single handedly, luckily his wife is very beautiful so the children have an added advantage ;D ) but I totally agree that there should be a financial advantage to someone giving so much valuable time & effort into providing education. I would happily put sensible money forward for the provision of this educational opportunity. Cheers me dears, twirly
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Post by robertisaacs on Jun 14, 2008 11:49:32 GMT
Hey all. I'm always being called naive Ian i take your point about the time and work which goes into a cpd day. And i appreciate you (and twirly's) kind words about the value of my time. My time, however, is mine to spend or donate as i will. In the long run i may consider doing more formal (and expensive) courses for larger groups. However what i am used to is small, informal, hands on sessions with familier people who are not "specialists". It would seem presumptuous to go from this to a full on formal 2 day course! Call this a "dry run" if you like. And to be quite honest i'm quite evangelical about biomechanics and i enjoy watching things "click" in people who are / were not so confident. I don't really want this to cost me anything but so long as i don't end up out of pocket after petrol, a room for the day, and lunch i'll be content. If anyone has any money after that which is burning a hole in their pockets i know of some good charities... The logistics, however, are a valid point. Picking a point between yorkshire and cornwall means a drive of 2-3 hours which is a fair bit for a one day practical course! I'm happy to do it, but if that is to much traveling for people i will fully understand!! What do people think? Regards Robert
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Post by kath on Jun 14, 2008 14:01:17 GMT
Hi All
I'm fairly new to this site, and it's the first time i've posted so please don't fall about laughing at the mistakes.
Yes please, count me in too, I would love to do some biomechanics training, ( as long as it is not too technical ) and would be happy to chip in and contribute, and don't mind the travelling. ( I'm in Swindon).
Looks like they'll be 3 of us competing for the slowest person in the class then!!
regards Kath
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Post by twirly on Jun 14, 2008 15:14:17 GMT
Hi Kath, & welcome aboard. I think you will find this a friendly forum but do beware of insisting on being the slowest person in the room cos you aint seen the rest of us moving yet. That particular honour will have to be fought over following the biomx meeting. At which point the slowest will not be pilloried but elevated to the Highest rank of ''Bringing up the rear'' Slow aint daft it just means there's more time to enjoy the beautiful scenery. Personally I am looking forward to it as my experience of biomechanics is presently limited. I started at the beginning (uni) worked for the NHS & private practice for 10 years then decided to become totally independant. Love my career but realise I have allowed myself to fall behind with ongoing developments. So, back to the beginning I happily go. Bit like snakes & ladders but without the fighting over whose go it is. At least if I start from the beginning I will improve any knowledge still wedged deep in the grey bit between the ears but also improve my confidence by knowing that what is learned is going to be built on a sound foundation instead of guessing (which some may not admit to but many currently do). PS. God loves a trier so I guess as I'm very trying I must be on the right track. ttfn twirls
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Post by robertisaacs on Jun 14, 2008 15:22:06 GMT
Ha, HAHAHAHAHA you wrote HI all instead of HEY all you poor deluded fool!!!!
Sorry. Bad sense of humour. No one is going to laugh at you!
Welcome and well done for doing your first post. You'll find this (and most) forums to be far more fun as an interactive experiance! Of course you would be most welcome!
I refer you to the OP (original post.) This is not a technical thing. This is a foundation day to establish the basics! And like the marines we will leave no man (figurativly) behind!
Regards Robert
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Post by blinda on Jun 14, 2008 17:04:57 GMT
Robert you may be naive, but you are also a wicked, wicked person.
I join the masses and welcome Kath to the forum.
with regard to cost and place of Roberts biomechs for lady beginners (are no men going???) I live in Hampshire but am willing to travel anywhere. Whilst we all admire your gallant gesture of offering your time and skills, please don`t put yourself out of pocket... i know what the NHS pays!
Cheers All Bel
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