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Post by ianl on Mar 11, 2008 7:21:12 GMT
Hi all
Looking for an expression of interest in a course to possibly run in September this year. It has Society approval and therefore will be covered by Society insurance.
The course will cover manipulation / mobilisation techniques and dry needling acupuncture for Pods.
The tutors are experienced practitioners at all the above techniques and work primarily in physical therapy / musculoskeletal podiatry approaches.
I am just making an enquiry at this stage so cannot give details of costs. To get an idea of numbers interested will help decide viability and whether the folks can commit to journeying over here.
A quick response of interest would be great but obviously does not commit you.
This posting is my only involvement in this so it is clearly not me doing the course!!
Cheers Ian
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Post by MichaelG on Mar 11, 2008 9:43:35 GMT
Ian
I would be interested esp. in the mobilisation / manipulation techniques.
Thanks
Michael Gillies
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Post by ianl on Mar 11, 2008 18:17:58 GMT
Hi Michael
Thanks for the reply. That makes four people who have expressed an interest. Are there any others from the Tamworth group interested?
Cheers Ian
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Post by RobinCrawley on Mar 11, 2008 20:29:31 GMT
I'm interested too! Will the SMAE insurance cover it?
Cheers,
Robin.
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Post by blinda on Mar 11, 2008 21:35:02 GMT
me too Bel
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Post by ianl on Mar 11, 2008 22:07:47 GMT
Hi Robin and Bel and thanks.
Robin, if the Society are approving the course and their insurance covers it I have always found Mike Batt amenable to doing the same. When I have more details I can let you know so that you can check it out with SMAE.
At this stage it is a question of checking numbers interested.
Cheers Ian
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Post by robertisaacs on Mar 12, 2008 7:52:16 GMT
For myself, a provisional yes based on whether or not i can talk my manager into paying. One of my minions probably on the same basis. Although i might heckle when we get to the needling bit ;D . Regards Robert
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Post by podmum on Mar 12, 2008 9:33:39 GMT
Mobilisation / manipulation techniques, definitely interested. Podmum
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Post by ianl on Mar 12, 2008 9:45:41 GMT
Hi Robert
Thanks for the reply. BTW, will your manager pay for me.
Ian
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Post by lawrencebevan on Mar 17, 2008 9:02:51 GMT
Id be interested but I'd like a little more info on content. I have gone to Aus to do some training with Ted Jedynak, a Pod who uses manipulation as his only treatment, and so I have covered some stuff. But its a big field and there's always something new! To see what I mean see www.footandleg.net and www.footmobilisation.comSo any idea on exactly what will be taught?
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Post by ianl on Mar 17, 2008 9:50:46 GMT
Hi Lawrence
Thanks for the reply. More details should available this week this week.
Similarly I have trained in osteopathic techniques for the foot and ankle and in peripheral joint mobilisation techniques and it tends to be the latter that I see the most. Funnily enough I find often find this kind of approach marketed in Pod circles as brand new and WOW when really other disciplins have used them for years. Physios have used the Kaltenborn technique for foot joint assessment for many years, it also serves as asmobiliser through its assessment process. Unlike some others though I do not always see these as an alternative for orthosis intervention, which seems to be the way that some people have tried to market this.
Cheers Ian
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Post by lawrencebevan on Mar 17, 2008 10:59:47 GMT
I agree about the WOW marketing to Pods. Crafty.
Whats the Kaltenborn technique? Where/what training have you done??
Its all about knowing which to use when,huh? Some people definately improve with mobilisation only, no orthotics. Others need orthotics. Ted Jedynak uses xray charting to assess talar position in the transverse and sagittal plane, he has criteria that he uses to predict the success of tx and the need for orthotics.
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Post by ianl on Mar 17, 2008 12:24:10 GMT
Hi Lawrence I trained in Peripheral Joint Mobilisation upto and including the hip. I did this under Prof Graham Smith who heads up the Society of Sports Therpaists. In terms of osteopathic manipulations I did a one on one intensive training over two days in Ireland. This latter was thorough and I have use it but nearly always use the periph mobs rather than manips. Kaltenborn approaches are a sequential method of assessing the quality of movement in all joints of the foot. They essentialy assess the glide ability of the joints and by virtue of assessment you introduce some element of mobilisation. In effect you stabilise one bone(s) and joint(s) whilst attempting a glide of another bone/joint alongside it/them. E.G Stabilse the 2 and 3 cuneiforms and mobilise the 3rd metatarsal and so on. I think what possibly underpins orthotic intervention, even with mobs, is what a persons philosophy about foot function (etc,etc) is. Invariably mobs form part of the approach I use with almost all biomechanics pts because it contributes to the foot and ankle rehab I would do. Whilst I do quite a bit of the stuff there are also very simple ways of doing the same thing if the need is not as intense i.e. taking the whole foot and ankle into full inversion stretch and sustaining it for a while. This can loosen things up. I have much to learn about all this. Ian
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Post by ianl on Mar 17, 2008 17:02:57 GMT
Hi Lawrence and others interested
If the course goes ahead then it will revolve around this set of assessment/Rx.
Cheers Ian
The TALUS Workshop Contents:
1. The Talus 2. The six joint motions 3. The ligaments of the ankle 4. The Subtalar joint 5. The Transverse Tarsal Joint, Mid Tarsal Joint, Metatarsophalangeal Joint 6. The functional medial and lateral foot. 7. How to check Fibula Motion on the Talus 8. How to check Talus motion 9. Talocalcaneal Joint. How to detect motion 10. Talocalcaneal restriction correction technique ( subtalar Manipulation). 11. Correction of Talocalcaneal restriction, another method 12. Mobilisation of the ankle and foot. The 'Paul Keating Method' 13. The Superior tibiofibular joint 14. Test for the inferior Tibiofibular Joint 15. Testing the mobility of the Talotibial joint, Correction of lesions to the Talotibial joint 16. Mobilisation of the Midfoot joints 17. Navicular Mobilisation Techniqu 18. Mobilisation Technique for the Cuboid Bone 19. Jones Points to the soles of the foot 20. Tender points around the Talus Area, Lateral Calcaneal Area and the Medial Calcaneal Area. 21. Jones Tender Point to the Patella 22. Jones Tender Point to the Medial Hamstring 23. Jones Tender Point to the sesamoid 24. Manipulation to the ankle include: 25. AP and PA manipulation to the cuboid bone, AP manipulation of the Navicular bone and a Subtalar manipulation 26. Spray and stretch for the Flexor Hallicus Tendinitis 27. Lymphatic Drainage to the lower limb
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Post by Admin on Mar 17, 2008 20:25:00 GMT
Hi Ian,
Looks interesting.
Now that we have a rough concensus of who may be interested in attending, could I ask that this thread be continued on the Education board?
Also - could you let us know who can attend - ie - pods or Pods and FHPs?
Cheers,
David
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