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Aug 5, 2009 6:22:54 GMT
Post by davidh on Aug 5, 2009 6:22:54 GMT
Ask to have it moved to the Break-Room by all means - I may even join in, briefly . SeekerofWisdom (Shy), You said: "I was just starting to enjoy it, do not be intimidated by David, shall we ask Robert to move the thread to the 'break room'?" But I don't see anyone being intimidated on this thread, do you?
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Aug 5, 2009 7:23:20 GMT
Post by seekerofwisdom on Aug 5, 2009 7:23:20 GMT
. What can I say ? Shy you worry me. I can think of a few persons who I'd like to provide the raw material. I was not intimidated by David, just fed up with him still acting likes he still owns the forum and trying to stifle free speech/debate. He's probably frightened we'll hit on some of his "slimming secrets". ;D A good idea. Veggie SOW
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Aug 5, 2009 10:50:45 GMT
Post by seekerofwisdom on Aug 5, 2009 10:50:45 GMT
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Aug 5, 2009 16:47:52 GMT
Post by 10feet on Aug 5, 2009 16:47:52 GMT
Quote: I have just purchased the 'testicle cook book' and will be happy to share recipes .
What can I say ? Shy you worry me. I can think of a few persons who I'd like to provide the raw material.
So who are to be the "official" tasters of cooking with balls? Not veggie sow I guess.
Can we have a Masterchef run down after the event and with accompanying wine recommendations?
Pete
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Aug 5, 2009 17:45:03 GMT
Post by seekerofwisdom on Aug 5, 2009 17:45:03 GMT
So who are to be the "official" tasters of cooking with balls? Not veggie sow I guess.
Well that could produce an ethical dilemma.
The excellent book I refer to does contain some recipes for 'castrated pigs testicles'. And also says that any testicles can be eaten, except Human, though why they are excluded I do not know.
So would a veggie consider the testicles from a castrated animal 'meat' or a by product, we could here be thinking all of those 'doctored' dogs and cats.
Anyway i will be very selective in the 'tasters', my 91 year old demented mom will be one, and I have some 'naive friends' joining me for the weekend so possibly sneek them by them.
I once did a 20 course Indian meal using only tame rabbit and goat, no one realised it was not chicken or lamb , mmmm.
That was before I became HPC registered. I am also a 'registered smallholder'.
Can we have a Masterchef run down after the event and with accompanying wine recommendations?
Lets see it could all be a load of old ********.
Nervously excited Shy.
Pete
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Aug 5, 2009 18:28:46 GMT
Post by seekerofwisdom on Aug 5, 2009 18:28:46 GMT
No, I don't have an ethical dilemma with anyone eating the by products of castration - assuming the animal was castrated under anaesthetic. Guinea pigs would not provide much of a meal though ......... I believe that these items are usually called "sweetbreads" and are a bit fibrous and not very nutritious? I don't have a problem with anyone eating road-kill badger (or any other road-kill animal) provided they didn't run it over deliberately themselves. For a veggie it is the killing that is morally abhorrant, not so much the eating meat by others. Most veggies eschew meat themselves because of other issues as well, but that's a long argument. I don't wish to know that. I don't suppose Peter Rabbit and Jemima Goat thought a lot to it either............. For wines I could suggest Skuttlebut - an Australian Red, or Canny Butcher - Grenache. For beer maybe Santa's Butt, Bishop's Finger (seeing as the theme for the meal is Body Parts) or one from the West Coast of USA called Homo Erectus. Veggie SOW
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Aug 6, 2009 5:39:08 GMT
Post by seekerofwisdom on Aug 6, 2009 5:39:08 GMT
No, I don't have an ethical dilemma with anyone eating the by products of castration - assuming the animal was castrated under anaesthetic. Guinea pigs would not provide much of a meal though .........Using Wiki I have now found the location of Turkey testicles, not as indicated in another forum between it's legs. Must inquire what my local Turkey farm does with them at Xmas. I believe that these items are usually called "sweetbreads" and are a bit fibrous and not very nutritious?
Another common myth, Sweetbreads are the thymus and pituitary glands, cook up a bit like herring soft roe. ( I have an issue about sport fishing where the 'hunter' throws back the catch, now that is cruel?) Nutritious, many cultures believe Testicles to be a 'health food'. Lets wait and see. I don't have a problem with anyone eating road-kill badger (or any other road-kill animal) provided they didn't run it over deliberately themselves.
For a veggie it is the killing that is morally abhorrant, not so much the eating meat by others.
As someone who has done a fair amount of 'killing' I can say it gives no joy, but done quickly and skillfully it's instant. For the same reason I support euthanasia.
Most veggies eschew meat themselves because of other issues as well, but that's a long argument.
Quote: I once did a 20 course Indian meal using only tame rabbit and goat, no one realised it was not chicken or lamb , mmmm.
I don't wish to know that. I don't suppose Peter Rabbit and Jemima Goat thought a lot to it either.............
Cannot speak for 'Peter' aka Raggymint, Rabbit but Jemima was a suicide case, goats are very stupid, this pedigree nanny climbed up slipped and hung itself on a gate. My 4 year old daughter and I butchered it and ate it.
For wines I could suggest Skuttlebut - an Australian Red, or Canny Butcher - Grenache. For beer maybe Santa's Butt, Bishop's Finger (seeing as the theme for the meal is Body Parts) or one from the West Coast of USA called Homo Erectus.
The last one obviously did not read Shakespere, for 'drink giveth man the desire but not the ability'
Shy, fighting a rear guard action.
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Aug 6, 2009 5:57:54 GMT
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Aug 6, 2009 6:48:07 GMT
Post by seekerofwisdom on Aug 6, 2009 6:48:07 GMT
In the good old days of course it went to feed the homeless, but legislation and PC in this God forsaken country stopped that!
David, it's not difficult, Shy has still to master the Quote function, and Veggie SOW does not as far as I know argue with them self.
Shy.(dork).
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Aug 6, 2009 6:48:33 GMT
Post by 10feet on Aug 6, 2009 6:48:33 GMT
Shy responding to Veggie SOW using a system of interleaving a response as in a conversation and allowing for continuity.
Not a difficult system to use. Perhaps you could try it?
Pete
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Aug 6, 2009 7:47:03 GMT
Post by seekerofwisdom on Aug 6, 2009 7:47:03 GMT
That was a good link from David, which sums up all that is wrong with our affluent Western society. In a world where people are starving, we in the West are actually throwing meat away due to overproduction? Obviously it's not as popular as people think, and I'm not surprised having seen the price of the bloody stuff. (Not swearing) That is appalling and is certainly an indictment of the meat eater if ever I saw one.
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Aug 6, 2009 18:24:12 GMT
Post by billliggins on Aug 6, 2009 18:24:12 GMT
I'm not going to get drawn into this one, but I admire Veggie SOW's wide reading of the great Bard, particularly MacBeth (or the Scottish piece of you are superstitious) Act 2 Scene 3.
(Macduff) 'What three things does drink especially provoke?'
(Porter) 'Marry sir, sir, nose-painting, sleep and urine. Lechery, sir, it provokes, and unprovokes: it provokes the desire, but it takes away the performance. Therefore, much drink may be said to be an equivocator with lechery: it makes him and it mars him; it sets him on and it takes him off; it persuades him and disheartens him; makes him stand to, and not stand to: in conclusion, equivocates him in a sleep, and giving him the lie, leaves him.'
It also causes you to sing like Luciano Pavarotti, to dance like Rudolph Nureyev, to be as attractive to females as George Clooney, to speak as wittily as Oscar Wilde (but quietly) and overall to be just the sort of person that you always wished you were. The trouble is, the Bard (as usual) got it right and all those desireable characteristics were likewise equivocated!
Bill
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