Post by robertisaacs on Feb 28, 2008 8:45:26 GMT
We've been circling this one for a while. Lets do this.
David Holland
Ian L
So, is biomx complicated or is it not.
In the blue corner we have...
David holland weighing in at (EDITOR CUT) years of experiance with an MSc and a background in clinical, academic and educational work. He is undefeated in lots of fights on pod arena and is the brain behind the "flat Earth" model.
He contends (it seems) that
"biomech is NOT complicated"
"It worries him when people Study some of the "complex" stuff"
"many of the tests carried out are unneccessary"
"many / most of the measurements and biometrics people undertake have little actual application."
His tag team partner is Ian L, Weighing in with a successful private practice and a grounding in manipulative / hands on work which gives him a unique perspective. He tends to support the "KISS" team in most areas.
In the Red cornerwe have... Robert Isaacs weighing in with a severe addiction to academic learning and holding the record for most time spent on pod arena in any 24 hour period. He works FULL TIME in biomechanics and has a special interest in paeds. He contends that
"Most of the tests (jacks, STA, planal dominance etc) have value both in diagnostics and in informing the most appropriate insole"
"Whilst a proportion of patients will get better with almost any approximation of an insole (within reason) others will benifit far more from modifications like:- PF grooves, ff varus / valgus extensions, kirby skives, 1st met head cutouts, J cuts, Planter flexed 1st rays, etc etc etc"
"in short, whilst biomx is not rocket science, nor inpenetrable to anyone with a reasonable degree of insite and enthusiasm it can be considered complex."
Roberts tag team partner is presently in the "situations vacant" section of the journal. However it can reasonably be supposed that a few of the folk on pod arena would have sympathy with his position.
LEEEEEETTSSSSSS GET READY TO RAAAAAAAAAMMMMMBBBBLEEE!!!!!
David Holland
Blinda - two things worries me (well, a few more than two, but the rest are nothing to do with Podiatry ) -
1. That some of the stuff you are studying in biomech is complicated, when biomech is not, and
2. This statement from your post above - "Feet which have medially deviated STJ axes and low medial arch height will show little to no STJ supination during the Hubscher test` (Kirby 1997)".
Is there a reference to show that this is actually the case? - I would want to see a good, robust study carried out on a biggish sample to be convinced (about the deviated axis rather than the low arch).
1. That some of the stuff you are studying in biomech is complicated, when biomech is not, and
2. This statement from your post above - "Feet which have medially deviated STJ axes and low medial arch height will show little to no STJ supination during the Hubscher test` (Kirby 1997)".
Is there a reference to show that this is actually the case? - I would want to see a good, robust study carried out on a biggish sample to be convinced (about the deviated axis rather than the low arch).
Ian L
I am sure these are all useful extra armamentaria for the tool kit but, just to be a little stirrer, do they serve more the purpose of making us feel we know what we are doing?
So, is biomx complicated or is it not.
In the blue corner we have...
David holland weighing in at (EDITOR CUT) years of experiance with an MSc and a background in clinical, academic and educational work. He is undefeated in lots of fights on pod arena and is the brain behind the "flat Earth" model.
He contends (it seems) that
"biomech is NOT complicated"
"It worries him when people Study some of the "complex" stuff"
"many of the tests carried out are unneccessary"
"many / most of the measurements and biometrics people undertake have little actual application."
His tag team partner is Ian L, Weighing in with a successful private practice and a grounding in manipulative / hands on work which gives him a unique perspective. He tends to support the "KISS" team in most areas.
In the Red cornerwe have... Robert Isaacs weighing in with a severe addiction to academic learning and holding the record for most time spent on pod arena in any 24 hour period. He works FULL TIME in biomechanics and has a special interest in paeds. He contends that
"Most of the tests (jacks, STA, planal dominance etc) have value both in diagnostics and in informing the most appropriate insole"
"Whilst a proportion of patients will get better with almost any approximation of an insole (within reason) others will benifit far more from modifications like:- PF grooves, ff varus / valgus extensions, kirby skives, 1st met head cutouts, J cuts, Planter flexed 1st rays, etc etc etc"
"in short, whilst biomx is not rocket science, nor inpenetrable to anyone with a reasonable degree of insite and enthusiasm it can be considered complex."
Roberts tag team partner is presently in the "situations vacant" section of the journal. However it can reasonably be supposed that a few of the folk on pod arena would have sympathy with his position.
LEEEEEETTSSSSSS GET READY TO RAAAAAAAAAMMMMMBBBBLEEE!!!!!
For the entirely superficial reason that it works for me in practice.
Beautiful people are inside out.
